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captioning sponsored by cbs >> our cbs news campaign team clums to cleveland. i'm scott pelley. it's opening night for the republican convention. >> i'm norah o'donnell and the speakers include the nominee in waiting himself, donald trump. >> i'm charlie rose, the democratic opponent tries to steal his thunder. hillary clinton talks to us today. >> i'm gail king, i'll be on the floor with the fractured party trying to youth behind trump. >> i'm tom dickerson i'll be at the podium while we rebrand the gop into the party of trump. >> we have some thoughts on the gig tbammable. >> from the first place of rock, the republican are ready to roll. >> we need a president that's going to turn our country around. we are going to embrace the
possibilities of change. >> we can come back bigger and better and stronger than ever before. >> i am the law and order candidate. >> mike pense is a man of how were, character and hannah tree. >tree -- hannah honesty. we're going to make america great again. thank you, i love >> campaign 2016, cbs news brings you the republican national convention from the quicken loans arena in cleveland, ohio here are scott pelley and norah o'donnell. >> the first time the republicans met in cleveland, they nominated the notoriously boring calvin coolidge at a convention so dull, humor es will rodgers urged churches here to open their doors so the
delegates could have some excitement. >> donald trump is no calvin coolidge and this convention is anything but dull as the dull gets prepare to nominate a political novice as their candidate for president and the party deals with a new reality as a trallity star as this stand bearer. >> in an unprecedented move trump will be speaking on this first night of the convention before he's even nominated. john dickerson is at the podium. john. >> tonight donald trump begins a four-day effort to finish the rebranding of the republican party into the party of trump. tonight the message has been about administration betrails on everything on the u.s. consulate in benghazi to emigration policy. the other objective over the four days is for donald trump to present a more personal picture of himself. more margin and more well rounded in the hopes that that public relations pitch will convince voters that he's ready to be president. >> all right john dickerson there and gail king is in the
midst of it all. she's down on the convention floor. she's been talking to some delegates, gail, good evening. >> i'm here sitting with the new york delegations. as you know they have the best seat in the house, front and center. they say that what we know is make america great again but some people thinks it means make the gop united again because not everybody is on the same page tonight but they say wait until november, we will be there, we're coming along. had set, the majority of the people in this room are for donald trump. they say he is real, he is raw. he's not the establishment and he is their guy. >> gail, thanks very much. also on the floor tonight cbs news chief whitehouse correspond marriage garretmajor garret whon covering the complaint i major. >> on the floor, a woman with a pink glamour saying over and own gefer trump's islamist phobia she's by herself arms raised
pink dress being escorted out of here. she had a banner. supporters nearby tried to rip it out of her hands more testfully than -- successfully than she would have preferred. those around her started to dhanchant usa. trauma slogan make america safe again is a reference to islam in general and immigration specific would make the country less safe. you can see she's being escorted from her seat. i will tell you scott, very near to where trump's running mate make pense is sitting maybe 25, 30 feet from where mike sense is now. he's sitting next to bob dole, long time establishment republican figure. i can tell you governor pense is paying no attention to this disturbance whatsoever acting as if it's not happening at all. the woman being escorted up and out of the quicken lont loans aa
of any organizized opposition to trump someone who is clearly not a delegate but someone who wants their voice heard. >> major is it just the one woman you saw there? major do we still have you? was it just the one protester? >> yes, just the woman, scott. i can barely hear you but if you want to ask me that question again go ahead. >> if it's the one protester there. it's the first time we've seen a protester at the convention this first day. >> yes, just one. all by herself and i would not describe this as a significant disturbance. it was isolated in this one particular section of the arena. most of the arena is not aware of it. but here next to governor pense made it more noticeable about. i'm about 25 feet from it so i noticed it as well. >> the crowd coming to their feet to cheer the new york city mayor rudy giuliani who in the theme of the night is talking
about donald trump making america safe again. major, you've been on the floor for much of the day. earlier there was a disturbance among delegates. describe what happened earlier today. >> well, i would say it was an organized effort to change the rule here for the convention. rules written by the republican national committee to smooth donald trump past the nomination. a rend gat renegade group of des most against donald trump but not all tried to change or tried to ask for a roll call vote on those rules. that would have been a very time consuming process. it would have delayed what you see behind me now. the trump forces in the rnc used a series of procedural moves to thwart them. they did not make it and that created a disturbance on the floor, a bit of an uprising lasted all about 15 minutes. it was resolved and those in the trump action that deposed him, they call themselves the never trump movement, also reconciled
themselves to defeat. they gave it their best effort. not in any way shape or form they're motivated than they were to support trump but they are acknowledging they are defeated. trump has won, the rnc has won and he will be the nominee. >> major, earlier this evening, we had a chance to speak with one of the leaders of the anti-trump movement. he is the senator from utah, mike lee. we asked him about the back room maneuvering that occurred earlier today. the anti-trump faction of the republican party believe it had the support of enough state delegations to force a roll call vote on changing the rules in hopes of preventing a first ballot victory by donald trump. but strangely, and very prizing convention the chair announced the states had packed out.
they called that back maneuvering change. this is what else he had to say. >> in your opinion i take it this convention is not proceeding in a fair manner. >> not so far. i hope that changes. this will be a defining moment for us an illuminating moment where we identify some of the areas of our party that aren't working right. i should be clear by the way. i don't think this is mr. trump's fault. i don't think he was behind this. this is the rnc. this is the people running this convention. they owe the delegates an apology, they owe mr. trump an apology. >> will donald trump be the nominee. >> i think he probably will be and i think it's almost certain that he will be. he will emerge much stronger from this convention. if we were able to have our votes. >> but the party didn't want to take that vote but they didn't want to count the noses of all the people against mr. trump, i understand your question you but
respectfully the party is the delegates who are here. the party is not the rnc. >> will you support donald trump. >> he has yet to earn my vote. i would like him to earn it. >> how does he do that. >> buy embracing the principles that make this country strong, principles of constitutional restraint, federalism, separation of powers. powers should be governed locally and kept away from washington. those in washington should be exercised within the three branches of government respectfully. if he does that he could win a whole lot of conservatives. >> is it an awe trenl attempt to prevent trump from winning. >> i don't know. >> what would you do next. >> i don't know. but again i think it's important for us. this doesn't have to be our defining moment. this is shameful to be sure, it's unfortunate. it was a lost opportunity but it doesn't have to define us. we need to do the things that united people do which is respect each other's opinions. treat each other with dignity and respect and allow people to
cast their votes, express their differences and move on. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> senator mike lee of utah, supporter of ted cruz and a member of the utah delegation. >> this is a big night because shortly we're going to hear from donald trump himself. he's going to be introducing his wife melania trump who is the keynote speaker then. but the warm up act is rudy giuliani. let's listen in for just a moment. >> in almost 30 years. i know him personally. and this is a very good and decent ha man and he will be a great president. [cheers and applause] >> in the last seven months, there have been five major islamic terrorist attacks on us and our allies. we must not be afraid to define our enemy.
promptly maligns all those good muslims around the world who are being killed by them. they are killing more muslims than anyone else. it also sets up a fear of being politically incorrect that can have serious consequences. it did in san bernardino, it did with major nadal. he was yelling awe la allah akb. the one who was the was obama. this is why our allies see us as weak and vulnerable.
donald trump said the first step in feeding our enemies is to identify them promptly and see connections between them. so we can find them and catch them. to defeat islamic extremist terrorists we must put them on defense. if they are at war against us, which they have declared, we must commit ourselves to unconditional victory against them. [crowd cheering] this includes undoing one of the worst deals america ever made. obama's nuclear agreement with iran. that will eventually, that will eventually let them become a nuclear power. and is putting billions of dollars back into a country
that's the world's largest supporter of terrorism. we are actually giving them the money to fund the terrorists who are killing us and our allies. we are giving them the money. are we crazy? donald trump will make sure that any agreement with iran meets the original goals of the u.n. and our allies. a non-nuclear iran. donald trump is a leader. he will reassert america's position as the nation with the best values to lead the world. it was hillary clinton who advocated to the overthrow of qaddafi in libya. now libya is in chaos.
hillary clinton is accountable for this and much more. her dereliction of duty and failure to keep her people safe played a major role as you heard tonight in the horrific islamic terrorists murders on september 11 and 12, 2012 in benghazi which claimed the lives of four brave americans. ambassador gay christopher stevens, us more than service officer sean smith and cia its tyrone edwards and glenn dougherty. may they rest in peace. and clinton and the obama operation for political reasons lied about the purpose of the attacks, including hillary clinton lying directly to the families of the people who were
killed right to their face. hillary clinton's answer to congress about the deaths of these four brave americans because of her gross failures as secretary of state was, quote, what difference at this point does it make. what difference does it make. watch the video yourselves and see the arrogant dis regard for american lives lost unnecessarily because of her. and then make up your own mind. anyone who -- [chanting usa, usa
.] it means we're getting to them. it means we're getting to them. it means we're getting to them. anyone who can say that it makes no difference how or why people serving america are killed should not be entrusted with the awesome responsibility to protect them and us. and should not be allowed to be our commander in chief. who would trust hillary clinton to protect you. >> rudy giuliani firing up the republicans and before donald trump will take the stage tonight to introduce his wife melania and our john dickerson is down at the podium now.
john what is melania trump going to say? >> well, she's going to begin or continue a rols we heard rudy giuliani just engage in a little bit here. he's obviously talking about terrorism a lot but he also testified to donald trump's character. talked about anonymous acts of charity that donald trump committed. the idea is that the donald trump you heard about in the media is not the one that they know. he got a big applause line, rudy giuliani did. we talk about unity, he unified the crowd here as he talked about the private donald trump. melania trump will do that same thing and introduce again this idea of the personal donald trump to tamp down those worries others have about him. >> we have received an advanced copy of melania's speech and the speech she says in part that donald trump will bring kindness, love and compassion to the whitehouse. >> melania herself talks about being an emgrant, becoming a u.s. citizen in 2006. we'll hear more of that indeed.
we want to go more on the convention floor who has been talking to a number of delegates. gayle i understand these delegates are very anxious to hear from the trump family. >> this is michelle, she's from rochester new york. this is her first convention as a delegate on the floor. she'll be talking about melania trump's speech. you said you're looking forward to hearing from her tonight, why. >> we need to see the side of melania trouble and see the person he wakes up with the morning, someone who pushes him on the way to the bathroom to brush his teeth. the real deal donald. this man who wakes up. the guy who is the head and the husband and father and everything we need. >> she's the one who would know the answers to those questions. i was talking to some people who say they're not with donald trump yet but they will be with him come november. other people wearing button will say donald trump from the day one, you are one of those people. >> absolutely. i think he's a businessman, i think our country needs a businessman. we need somebody who is
committed to making it great and he's worked from the bottom to the top. he's had everything thrown at him but he's doing a good job. >> michelle, you describe the naryk in the room as what. >> this is really high energy. i can't imagine what thursday's going to be like. it's going to be amazing. >> thank you michelle. nora anh and scott back to you. >> one of the things she said is they have separate bathrooms so i don't know how much she can say pushing him out of the way when she needs to use the zinc. sink. >> i do want to emphasize minor disturbance and/or protest. david my photographer who followed me up here. it says republican national convention in red there was one person with a sign that read in big bold letters refugees welcome. those on the floor saw that, shouted them down, escorted out, end of story.
>> thank you very much. we're expecting donald trump in the next minute or so. very unusual, maybe unpress denied, norah, for a nominee at the c nominated. >> not only that but appearing on another network, fox news network at about 8:30 when the convention was talking to a mother whose son was killed during the ben geeps attack bena very emotional. >> this is before donald trump taking the stain. his prepared remarks are exactly 28 words. let's see if he sticks to it. here's donald trump.
donald and me. to our young son and to our whole family. it's a very nice welcome and we are excited to be with you at this historic convention. i'm so proud of your choice for president of the united states, my husband, donald j. trump. and i can assure you he's moved by this great honor. the 2016 republican primaries were fierce and started with many candidates, 17 to be exact. and i know that donald agrees with me when i mention how talented of all, talented all of them are. they deserve the respect and gratitude from all of us.
[applause] however, when it comes to my husband, i will say that i'm definitely biased and for a good reason. i have been with donald for 18 years and i have been aware of his love for this country since we first met. he never had enough agenda when it comes to his patriotism, because like me, he loves this country very much. [crowd cheering] i was born in slovania, a small beautiful and then communist country in central europe. my sister who is an incredible woman and a friend and i were raised by my wolfe wonderful pa. my elegant and hard working
mother introduced me to fashion and beauty. my father victor installing me a passion for business and travel. their integrity, compassion and intelligence has led to this day on me and for my love of family and america. [applause] from a young age, my parents impressed on me the value that you work hard for what you want in life. that your work is your bond and you do what you say and keep your promise. that you treat people with respect. they fought and showed me values and molar morals in their daily. that is a lesson i continue to pass along to our son. and we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow.
[applause] because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. [applause] i'm fortunate for my heritage but also where it brought me today. i traveled the world while working hard in the incredible arena of fashion. after living and working in milan and paris, i arrived in new york city 20 years ago. and i survived both the joys and hardships of daily lives. on july 28, 2006, i was very proud to become citizen of the united states.
[crowd cheering] the greatest on planet earth. [applause] i cannot take the freedoms this country offers for granted. but this freedoms have come with a price so many times. the sacrifices made by our veterans, our reminders to us of this. i would like to take a moment to recognize some amazing veterans, the great senator bob dole. [applause]
and let us send o thank owl of t venezuela -- all of the veterans in our arena today and those across our great country. we are all truly blessed to be here. that will never change. i can tell you with certainty that my husband has been concerned about our country for as long as i have known him. with all of my heart, i know that he will make a great and lasting difference. donald has a great and deep and unbonding determination and never give up attitude. i have seen him fight for years to get the project done or even started. and he does not give up.
[crowd cheering] if you want someone to fight for you and your country, i can assure you he's the guy. he will never ever give up. and most importantly, he will never ever let you down. [cheers and applause] donald is and always has been an amazing leader. now he will go to work for you. [cheers and applause] his achievements speak for themselves and his performance throughout the primary campaign proves that he knows how to win. he also knows how to remain focused on improving our country, on keeping it safe and
secure. [applause] he's tough when he has to be but he's also kind and fair and caring. this kindness is not always noted but it is there for all to see. that is one reason i fell in love with him to begin with. [applause] donald is intensely loyal to family, friends, employees, country. he has the utmost respect for his parents mary and fred, to his sister mary ann and elizabeth and to his brother robert and to the memory of his late brother fred. his children have been cared for and mentored to the extent that even his advisories mean they
are an amazing testament to who he is as a man and a father. [applause] there is a great deal of love in the trump family. that is our bond and that is our trent. yes, donald thinks big which is especially important when considering the presidency of the united states. no room for small thinking. no room for small results. donald gets things done. [cheers and applause] our country is under performing and needs new leadership. leadership is also what the world needs. donald wants our country to move forward in the most positive of ways. everyone wants change. donald is the only one that can
deliver it. we should not be satisfied with stagnation. donald wants prosperity for all americans. [applause] we need new programs to help the poor and opportunities to challenge the young. there has to be a plan for growth, only then we'll see the results. my husband's experience exemplifies growth and successful paths of opportunity to the jesse jackson inventory to -- to the next generation. prosperity and greater cooperation amongst people and nations. donald's intent to represent all
of the people not just some of the people. that includes jews and muslims, it includes hispanics and african americans and asians and the poor and the middle class. [crowd cheering] throughout his career donald has successfully worked with people of many faiths and with many nations. like no one else, i have is an the talents, the energy, the tendencies of the minds and simple goodness of the heart that god gave to donald trump. now is the time to i don't those gifts as never before for purposes far greater than ever. and he will do this better than
anyone else can. and it won't even be close. [applause] everything depends on it for our cause for our country. people are counting on him. all of the millions of you who have touched us so much with your kindness and your confidence. you have turned this unlikely campaign into a movement that is still gaining in strength and number. [applause] the primary softness is behind us. let us all come together in a national campaign like no other. [crowd cheering]
the race will be hard all the way to november. there will be good times and hard times and unexpected turns. it would not be a contest without excitement and drama. but throughout it all, my husband will remain focused on only one thing. this beautiful country that he loves so much. [crowd cheering] if i'm honored to serve as first lady, i will use that wonderful privilege to try to help people in our country who need it the most. one of the many causes dear to my heart is helping children and women. you judge society by how it treats its citizens.
we must do our best to ensure that every child can live in comfort and security with the best possible education. [crowd cheering] as a citizen of this great nation, it is kindness, love and compassion for each other that will bring us together and keep us together. these are the values donald and i will bring to the whitehouse. [crowd cheering] my husband is ready to lead this great nation. he's ready to fight every day to give our children the better future they deserve. [applause]
ladies and gentlemen, donald j. trump is ready to serve and lead this country as the next president of the united states. [crowd cheering] thank you, god bless you and god bless america. >> there you have it, melania trump the wife of donald trump delivering a speech where she talked about the kindness and simple goodness of his heart. charlie rose is here with us. charlie i spoke to a autopsy adviser to the trump campaign who says melania has been practicing for weeks on this speech. >> well, it shows. i bet donald trump is very proud of her tonight. she showed a different side of him than rudy giuliani showed and she proved our perspective, she can be an asset in the
campaign as this crowd is reacting to her. >> english is not her native language. she does speak five different languages and today she delivered a perfect speech. >> she did. it was by the script but delivered as you say with great perfection. some part of the speech was designed to repair or begin to repair breaches with the islamic community and with hispanics and with asians, people who might have felt offended by some of donald trump's rhetoric over the past year. she included all of them in her speech to talk about how he could be the president of all of americas. john dickerson is down at the podium for us tonight. john, what did you see. >> well, this is definitely a new kind of speech from a candidate's spouse.
she talked about donald trump but not really in the personal term that ann romney used in 2012 when they talked about how they were moore eating pasta and tuna to use personal stories to get personal inside the candidate. back to you, scott. >> so gayle king is down on the convention floor for us. >> we're here now with chris christie. he's been watching this speech. saying she was confident and very poised. governor christie your opinion about melania trump. >> she's someone who is smart and someone who lofsz her country. it was great tonight and a great way to start the convention. >> because you weren't chosen was this tough for you sitting
here tonight. how did you feel. >> disappointed of course. if you compete for things the way i compete for things, when i compete for signify want to win. but i'm very excited for mike being the nominee. he's a friend. i'm glad donald picked a governor. i think that's important to have done to have somebody in the party in that way for governor pence. chairman of the transition, i take a deep breath and have a good plan together for the president. >> not everyone's on the same page with donald trump yet but we will be there by november. do you think that he will be able to meet the gop party. >> he will be able to do it. >> thank you very much chris christie for your time tonight. scott and norah, back to you too. >> thanks very much. we're going to be back in just a moment with charlie rose's clue intervieclue -- exclusive interh
usually keep a low profile during the opposition party convention. that is not the case on this convention. hillary clinton spoke today with charlie rose. >> i spoke to her in cincinnati after she addressed the naacp. we talked about that and we also talked about donald trump and she was very tough and called him very dangerous perhaps the most dangerous presidential
candidate in the history of this country. >> no self discipline, no self control, no sense of history, no understanding of the limits of the kind of power that any president should impose upon himself. he has shown none of that. let's return to torture, and do you know what, i will order the american military to commit war crimes. what he has laid out is the most dangerous, reckless approach to being president than i think we've ever seen. >> dangerous man ever to run for president of the united states. >> i believe that. >> why is it today in the polls, most recent poll within two or three points. this is a man you just described in such harsh terms close to being even with you. >> well, our presidential elections are close and the campaign is really just started. but hears what's really happen -- hear here'-here's whal
happening i believe. america is worried and he's looking for answers. he's providing simplistic easy answers. let's make america great again which means basically we'll go back to the way it was and you, you out there whoever you are, you're going to have a better shot. it is a, you know, unfair and wrong-headed view of history. >> are you speaking to these fears and these concerns in a way that there is an alternative that they can clearly see. so they believe and trust you to be on their side. >> well that's what i intend to do. and i have a very clear sense of what we can do that will actually produce results. not just demagoguic rhetoric but real results. >> this really goes to the core of how some people in significant polls say, they say they don't trust you and you have thought about this and you have begun to speak about this. >> yes, i have, yes i have. >> tell us. >> it is something that clearly
i don't like to hear. nobody would. and it is at such variance with the way i am perceived when i'm doing a job. part of it is seeking this job at this time of fear, anxiety, discouragement, rejectionism that is unfortunately part of our political environment right now. i understand people who are asking these questions. and i hope by the time we have this election, it will be clear to voters who they can count on. >> charlie, great and i know you've got so much more of this interview that will air on your show. on the night they're saying make america safe again, hillary clinton is saying this guy can't be trusted with the nuclear. >> exactly what she said. but she at the same time understands and talks about the fact she has a huge plus factor. >> for herself. >> for herself and she's not perfect and that she has to go
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republican national convention here where we have heard from donald trump and melania trump tonight. joining us now our panel of cbs news political analysts, peggy noonan and mark leibovich of the "new york times." we heard on 60 minutes donald trump's choice of mike pence of the vp had unified that party. did we see that today here. >> oh my goodness i do not think we did. we just saw a floor full of people altogether listening to mrs. trump who i think haded some real glamour to the proceedings. before that things were
historically in terms of the speeches had been a little bit grim. there was a sense of people being besieged and also angry. there were a lot of boos and nos and such. to your question, i think the party, the republican party had about eight or ten weeks to get used to the idea it has a nominee and unify around him. i think it became clear today that that has not happened and it did not happen. >> one of the things that i noticed today is that this is the first day but the hall has been about half empty all day long. of course we know that neither of the presidents bush have decided to come. other noteables, lindsey graham are missing as well. is the party uniting around donald trump. >> it doesn't appear. a poll recently came out yesterday, nbc news and the washington journal, 67% of the
republicans were unhappy with the nominee. just 38% were happy with it. while i think most republicans will end up voting for donald trump, in november it is very clear to me looking at the numbers, looking at this seemingly sparsely attended convention, looking at the lack of party stars at this convention, not just former presidential candidates or former presidents but a whole sort of constellation of governors and senators and people who you would expect to see at a convention like this. the fact these people are absent from it, the fact that so many republicans are unhappy strongly suggest that looking at the republican is fundamentally divided over the president donald trump. >> on that note, a bunch of people already left. the program's not over. this is michael flynn who is speaking right now raising questions about the national security credentials of hillary clinton.
mark, talk about that. i mean we're going to hear more from family members than they are going to hear from sitting u.s. senators. >> yes. i don't think there's any question this is a unified party. certainly nothing today would lead anyone to think that has happened at all. i think what's interesting is that donald trump doesn't seem to care and i think a lot of of the other people don't seem to care. it's almost this passionate division here. and it's almost as if donald trump is trying to start his own almost quasi-independent party and let the rnc sort of run it and pay for it. and you know, again as peggy said, he has six, seven weeks to really do this. and he doesn't seem to have cared that much. so look, it adds drama, it adds a level of and. melania trump gave a very good speech tonight especially for a political novice but the sense of unity is not something that anyone takes that leading. >> mark and pregnanty. thanks, let's check in with john
derrickson. john. > -- dickerson, john.>> it's oe first night. some may remember when nancy reagan waved to ronald raggen waved in the hall and people went nuts. that's what happened here tonight with donald trump and he shaped the party in his image. that was literally him reshaping the party in his image. he said nothing but the crowned went crazy. scrazy-- the crowd went crazy. just as we watched the transformation here, that will be a notable moment. back to you. >> as i mentioned since we're hearing from flynn, we also heard from joni efforts, a -- efforts from thernst and many p. you're on the floor tell us what you heard about the delegates. >> you heard about the roll call vote. >> gayle is there. you were just talking about the
roll call vote. >> we were having a conversation with the delegates from utah because you were involved. people say it's much to do about nothing. some people say it shows a fracture in the party. you say what. >> it's not clear for the delegates who can speak and be heard. >> your reaction to melania trump. >> i thought she was charming. she was sincere and charming. >> but he only took 10 seconds to introduce her. >> she probably said sweetheart make it short and sweet so i can talk. >> all right. listen, you are a black man from utah, a republican voting for donald trump, all good qualities. but people are looking at you and go huh and to that you say. >> i say join the trump train. try the opportunity. we as african americans for a long time have just been democrats. >> what do your friends say to you? >> well really they're a little bit amused. i say look at the policies and how they deliver for our
community and they have not. >> all right. thank you very much. two delegates from utah. back to you norah and scott. >> thank you, gayle. and we also have a man who has been covering these conventions since 1968. bob schieffer is with us tonight. bob. >> scott, this one is different. the republican party is betting its future now on a candidate who has never held public office, never served in the military. he's anti-trade, anti-entitlement reform and has proposed a budget critics say would add trillions of dollars to the national debt. by any conventional reasoning, he is a long shot but this is not a typical year. republican primary voters chose him because they say he speaks his mind and they feel abandoned by their party leaders. his nomination has left this party deeply divided, so divided even republican governor john kasich, the host governor will not be here.
his friends say he will not step foot in the arena because he disagrees with what trump stands for and feels it would be critical to give his stance of approval. modern history shows that candidates outside their party main streams don't do well. barry goldwater wres ustled the non-nation -- wrestled in 46 but lost to lyndon johnson. democrats kicked out party regulars in 72 and nominated george mic mcgovern, he won onle state. donald trump may or may not win but in a party facing an identity crises, the question here is is he changing the party for better or worse or is many establishment republicans worry destroying it altogether. >> bob schieffer, thank you very much. drum made adonald trump made ane here tonight just to introduce his wife. very unusual norah for candidates to show up on the
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